Wednesday, March 12, 2025

PSA, Beware!

 




So finally, 3 hours after the fact my hands have stopped trembling.  Yet my stomach's still all twisty thinking how close I came to being phished.
Maybe my experience can help someone else ...
at least writing about it might calm my nerves.


Normally, I'm uber-cautious about unsolicited communications.  Realizing the increase in cyber theft, I even check our bank accounts every day.  (Obsessive much?)


These people, however, sounded so very legit.  Concerned, even.  Let me tell you about it.


While sitting at the kitchen counter, Tom came in holding his cell:  "You might want to take this; he says he's calling from Chase."   At the time, I didn't think to question why they were calling his number -- but rightly presumed both are listed on our profile.


After identifying himself and badge number, I learned there had been two attempts to access funds from our account.  Did the name xxx mean anything to me?  Had I travelled to Brooklyn, NY in the past 24 hours?  Had I authorized $1,200 at 8:10 this morning ... then $1,500 five minutes later?


The caller was so polite, and realizing my voice was shaking, kept reassuring me, "Take your time."


He provided a Case number, then separate Claim Numbers and said Officer xxx would be calling me to follow up.  Before handing me off to their "investigative division" he cautioned me not to give them anything more than the Claim numbers. 
Three times, what a guy.

Next "Floor Manager" R. informed me they (Chase) had flagged these transactions, but needed my help/electronic handshake to confirm via Zelle.


You've heard the expression, "Ignorance is bliss?"   That's me, totally clueless: "What's Zelle?" 


Only after he'd confirmed I had logged in to my other (primary) bank, he began walking me through the steps to activate and transfer "Money to myself."

Because I've two separate checking accounts in the Primary I asked, "Which one do you want me to select?"   R. replies, "The one with the most money in it."
Um, that set off my spidey senses!


When I asked him to hold on a few minutes he got all snotty and told me I needed to hurry because they had more people waiting in the queue.


Like I should have earlier, I hung up and called Chase directly.   You guessed it -- scam.   She (and Google) confirmed this is an on-going scam.  The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has actually sued JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America and Wells Fargo for failing to protect consumers from the Zelle payment network.



Tom's so upset by what he (derisively) calls, "Technology" but I've learned a lesson.  Like our late blog friend Rick used to say, "Every day's a school day."






34 comments:

  1. Wow what an elaborate ruse. That is so scary and so glad the red flags finally went up. I’m like you. Nothing usually gets past me but with these crooks devising such elaborate scams, we need to be more vigilant than ever. Makes me want to pull my money out of the bank and store in in a shoebox under the bed!

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  2. So sorry to hear of your scam attempt. The Holy Spirit must have been with you at the time. Praise the Lord.

    This is happening a lot over here, especially to non-techie people like me.

    The advice we are given:

    NEVER to give any personal details on the phone. And NEVER to phone a number they give you. Put the phone down and phone a Bank number that is on your Bank Statement.

    Also, beware of a trick to obtain your PIN number on your Credit/Debit Card. PIN numbers are usually 4 digits. The caller asks for two numbers - the first and third number of your PIN. Then he creates a crackle on the line and apologises saying, "I didn't get that. Can we try again. Give me the second and fourth number of your PIN."

    Now he has your PIN and can use your card to buy goods.

    Another trick is to text someone pretending to be a family member and say "I lost my card, could you pay this for me ..." You respond to the text and pay the money asked for thinking it's your relative or friend.

    These and other scams are featured on TV regularly over here.

    Hoping you recover quickly from your ordeal. Praying for you.

    God bless.

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    1. Yes, Praise the Lord! I never heard of that PIN ruse ... thank you for telling me.

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  3. Whew! That was a CLOSE one! So glad your antenna went up just in time! There are so many unscrupulous crooks out there in cyberspace, it's really scary. Thank you for the warning! So glad you are safe!!

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    1. Got to put on that "Armor of God" every day!

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  4. Wow. Thanks for alerting me to this scam.

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    1. Until I Googled "Zelle", I'd no idea it was so unscrupulous.

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  5. Good God, I'm so glad you caught this in time - - it could have been FAR worse. These scams are so elaborate that it's very easy to fall for it. And they happen very frequently. I get scam phone calls and texts nearly every day.
    Don't fall for ANY call or text, don't talk to anyone no matter how sincere they sound. Hang up immediately.
    When I lived in Texas I was a victim of identity theft. I won't go into the ugly details, but a woman in Europe(!!!) was using my credit card. I was careless back then - - but I sure learned my lesson.

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    1. What lent this one authenticity, Tom had a similar thing happen a few years ago -- only legit. The bank had to call and warn him/us.

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  6. Wow. So glad you hung up on him!! And thanks for the warning. Lessons learned!!

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  7. Anytime I get a call I immediately call the numbers I have for whatever company it is. Except for the old scam where I was about to be arrested if I did not send them some money to stop the arrest. Funny when you told them you would just call your lawyer and let him handle things, the call was disconnected.

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  8. OMG OMG so glad you hung up and called, you could have lost everything in your account. Tom needs to stop answering calls.. I don't have that problem with Bob because he has never answered a phone when I am home and has no cell.
    My rule is let the phone go to VM if I don't know the number. our calls have dropped a lot since I never answer the phone unless I know who it is.
    this is so realistic, it is crazy. they are getting better and better. so very happy you caught on before to late. remember a few weeks ago Sue lost their entire bank account, I wonder if this is how.. Thank you Lord you called your bank

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    1. Yep, I was duped into thinking he was real b/c they kept telling me not to give the investigator ANY personally-identifiable information.

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  9. Ugh...this is happening more and more...this is why I never give out my cell number (or hesitant too). Sending hugs.

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  10. Oh goodness...I am so thankful you caught on to some clues that this was a scam. These scum people really can be persuasive and can sound so legit. This happens everyday to people and with all the technology, they can do such evil things. The Lord was taking care of you and I am so thankful.

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  11. Unfortunately more and more scams are happening all the time. I got a message the other day that I owed an Ohio turnpike fee. Sorry but I'm no longer in Ohio and haven't been for almost a year, so I knew right away it was a scam. We can never be too careful. It is best to hang up and call whoever is in charge, like you did with your bank. Glad you didn't get scammed! Love, ma

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    1. Just this morning I had a text from area code 243: Final Notice for a past-due $6.99 toll road ticket.
      Turns out Area Code 243 is the Democratic Republic of the Congo. LOLOLOL!

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  12. WOW WOW WOW!! They are sneaky! Hurray for spidey sense and the Holy Spirit saying NOOOO in your ear! Thanks for the warning. I'll share with others. I really wish we'd bring back public executions and put these people right at the front ... (yeah, I went there ... I don't like thieves!!).
    Blessings. 🍀

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  13. Oh Myra, that's exactly how our Fraud happened..with Dave calling me to the phone to answer a few fraud questions and Zelle was involved. Yours was a little different process but our money was all taken from ck. account and savings, immediately when I verified who I was..So glad you got out of yours..life has never been the same for us since last year. God has been good to us but wow when there is no money Its an adjustment.
    I started to tremble when reading this..The Scammers just make me sick. We (Dave and I) are not gullible and are So careful..our scam had so much of our info and seems so real..it really can happen to anyone. (((hugs)))
    Sue

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    1. I'm so sorry to resurrect bad memories, Sue. They actually had the nerve to call back this morning, trying to confirm our address (NEVER reply, 'yes'!) to send a credit card. Evil!

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    2. OMG, I'm so glad you hung up. That is so scary. I remember when this happened to Sue.

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  14. I am so thankful that you were not scammed! I like that every day is a school day and thanks for sharing this. I tell you - you can't trust I want to say anybody - but I guess you can trust God and your friends. ♥

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  15. thecontemplativecat here. You finally caught him in his lies before damage could be done. We have had medicare scams where the caller wants to get all sorts of info.

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